Shortly before the presentation that revealed Byleth on January 16, 2020, Vergeben claimed that the final character was not KOS-MOS and reiterated his claims that it was not Dante, Phoenix Wright, Amaterasu, Monster Hunter, Sir Arthur, Morrigan, or Leon Kennedy from Resident Evil. I've talked about there being a new 2D styled Metroid for a while now if you look into my post history on either here or GameFAQs. - GameFAQs, https://www.reddit.com/r/u_Senjougahara__Hitagi/comments/9yzt7h/comment/ea5urmk, https://www.ssbwiki.com/index.php?title=Vergeben_leaks&oldid=1479789. Ultimate on the Nintendo Switch, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Vergeben" - Page 3. In addition to this, the fact that the source was uncertain about KOS-MOS, a Bandai Namco character, despite the source apparently debunking a Bandai Namco rep beforehand, drew more skepticism. Yuji Horii has said that Dragon Quest XII's theme will be "Dreams" / "Making your dreams come true" so we have that to look forward to!

rofl, Press J to jump to the feed. Terry was later confirmed in a Nintendo Direct on September 4th, 2019. Another camp accused him of stealing information from other leaks, though many of the purported examples were, in fact, copycats of Vergeben. At The Game Awards 2018, Joker from Atlus and Sega's Persona 5 was revealed to be the first DLC fighter, directly contradicting Vergeben's claim that the first DLC character would be a Square Enix rep. Vergeben later justified this discrepancy by claiming that Joker had been moved up to the top of the release schedule at the last minute. In the same post, Vergeben noted the confusion over his source's uncertainty about it being KOS-MOS from Xenosaga, since they had denied that the character was owned by Bandai Namco: he said this was likely because his source had mistaken KOS-MOS for a Monolith Soft character. For Terry, the webpage that first triggered speculation about an SNK fighter came before Vergeben made any claims about an SNK character, even denying allegations about commenting on the matter. Vergeben's claim that Joker had been moved up the schedule at the last minute was largely accepted, in particular due to confirmation that Masahiro Sakurai had been requested by Nintendo last minute to prepare a trailer for Joker's reveal, leaving him unable to demonstrate any gameplay. Similar to the Gematsu leaks for Smash 4 during E3 2013, the confirmation during E3 2018 of several of Vergeben's major claims sparked a large amount of discussion surrounding them and their authenticity. Dragon Quest XI came out in Japan along with that PS4 theme that includes that picture before Black Clover referenced it. On November 21, Hitagi again stated that Steve was definitely coming, but also announced that she had given up on trying to find out about the rest of the characters, as the ones she heard about were starting to look like red herrings, including any Square Enix fighters, thus bringing Vergeben's claims into doubt as well.[2]. This led some to believe that Vergeben was simply taking info from the NeoGAF leak, but the next day he claimed in a thread that he did not know anything about the NeoGAF leak, and that it also contradicted his own information since it claimed there would be no new Pokémon rep. If anything it's kind of funny to me that others are finally hearing about it. In several cases, an account would surface claiming to belong to Vergeben, which he would then have to shoot down. Ultimate.

In regards to how it came over two years after his initial claim which was long before the second Fighters Pass was even conceived, Vergeben theorized that Steve may have been in the works for as long as three years and repeatedly scrapped and revitalized due to the fighter’s complexity (as Sakurai mentioned during the character's initial announcement). The final fighter in Fighters Pass Vol. So the general idea made it in for her, but in a different way. Took longer than expected due to what seemed to be difficulties with implementation that put the idea of ice by wanting to get things done right & faithfully.... but there you go. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Vergeben also claimed that the popular Microsoft-owned indie game Minecraft would be represented in some form. 1 character was owned by HAL Laboratory, Game Freak, Intelligent Systems, SNK, or Atlus. For Super Smash Bros. Detractors were wary of Vergeben's potential to be a repeat of the Gematsu Leaks, with accurate information at the start but less notable or outright wrong information towards the end. Same. For Super Smash Bros. - Page 5. During the presentation itself, Vergeben posted that his source had told him it was Byleth shortly before the presentation began and stated that the Mii Fighter costumes would be Altair, Cuphead, a Rabbid hat, and two Mega Man outfits. After The Game Awards passed without an announcement, many claimed that this definitively proved Vergeben was wrong, despite the original claim for a TGA announcement not coming from him. In response to a GameFAQs post asking about Simon, Vergeben replied “Just be patient. In spite of this, the fact that no Minecraft content of any kind came in the base game or with any of the waves of DLC accompanying the first Fighters Pass led to the general consensus that Vergeben was wrong about it, as even when Minecraft content came in the future in the form of a playable Steve, Vergeben had made the claim so long ago that it would not be at all relevant to DLC after the first Fighters Pass. Though the veracity of his claims is still debated by some, almost all of them have come to be true, with his only fault so far being that a Square Enix character would be the first one revealed as downloadable content.

But I do have a habit of hearing about things really early. Incineroar, in particular, was largely exclusive to Vergeben: many credited him with popularizing its inclusion, with most other leakers suggesting Decidueye, Mimikyu, Lycanroc, Tapu Koko, or Zeraora as the new Pokémon rep. Aside from Luminary, Japanese fans commonly ship him with Veronica. He later said that he had heard seven different names for the newcomer and that Square Enix was intentionally sending out multiple names to prevent the real one from leaking. Additionally, he stated that Senjougahara__Hitagi, a contact of his, heard that the Minecraft content would be the game's protagonist Steve as a playable character. On September 1st, 2019, Vergeben claimed that a playable character owned by SNK Corporation would appear in the game and that he had heard one potential name of the character. MVCI season 2 has a good chance of happening according to prominent leakers and insiders like /u/dasvergeben and u/emezie, so you're gonna eat your words. 1 would be a Square Enix rep.

Apparently they do that because of Japanese version dialogue that insinuates he really cares for her and wanted to tell her something (I recall vague aspects of this being left in the localized version. Ultimate. He also once again reaffirmed his claim that Minecraft would be represented through DLC, though he was still unsure if Steve would be playable. But that make me really excited to see what they do with that. lol.

I looked into who was doing it a year or so ago, but could never get more than just basic information.

Banjo & Kazooie were confirmed in the E3 2019 Direct along with Erdrick, albeit as a skin for Hero, something Vergeben stated he took great joy in as he was not informed of multiple Dragon Quest skins, and that this also explained why he kept hearing Luminary along with Erdrick. Furthermore, a large portion of the community had chosen to believe the Grinch Leak despite Vergeben adamantly denying it, and thus he was vindicated when the Grinch Leak was debunked by Incineroar's reveal. Criticism increased after Vergeben walked back several of his deconfirmations on December 7; Vergeben justified this by stating that he had misunderstood his source, but many refused to accept this explanation. At present, the following are the claims made by Vergeben that have been proven wrong: From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki, fourth GameFAQs thread he posted on August 3, webpage that first triggered speculation about an SNK fighter, If Vergetbean is right, who's it going to be?

He also garnered much criticism when he claimed to have been told the character was Byleth fifteen minutes before the presentation but did not reveal this until after the presentation began; however, his accuracy in predicting the Mii Fighter costumes that had not yet been revealed in the presentation seem to suggest that he may have had inside information after all. Those are also color coded based on the color of the orbs too. The comparison may be coming full circle. Ultimate Direct on August 8. It will probably be a while before we even get to see what 12 would even look like. Although this screenshot could easily have been edited, his initial post came before the point in the presentation where the Mii Fighter costumes were revealed, which would indicate the screenshot and therefore his source's information was true.

Four days later, Vergeben made another post on a thread, this time stating that a new third-party fighter owned by Square Enix would appear in the game. This is supported by a statement by a former Mojang employee saying that discussions surrounding adding Minecraft to Smash started "at least 5 years ago"[1]. This left Simon Belmont and Minecraft representation Vergeben's only unconfirmed claims. On June 6th, 2019, Vergeben claimed that Banjo & Kazooie had a 99% chance of being part of the Fighters Pass. It is kind of funny to think about though how DQVI was literally about dreams and a dream world.... so maybe it will kind of be like Horii's way of approaching that "Dream" theme in a totally different way. He later dismissed a popular 4chan rumor that the 4th fighter in the Fighters Pass would be a female character with a "mecha". Vergeben made a post agreeing with Ryce and stating that he heard that Minecraft would still be represented with a boss battle, despite acknowledging the fact that nobody had found any references to Minecraft in the datamine of the full game. He also shared that Hitagi's sources claim that there had been talks of a Granblue Fantasy newcomer as DLC, most likely Katalina. Cookies help us deliver our Services.

The two predictions that gave Vergeben most of his credibility were Isabelle and Incineroar, for very few other rumors had suggested their inclusions. On December 16th, Vergeben claimed that the final Fighters Pass character was not Reiji Arisu and Xiaomu from Namco x Capcom and the Project x Zone series or Morrigan from Darkstalkers. Vergeben's claims leading up to the reveal of the final Fighters Pass Volume 1 character drew large amounts of skepticism and criticism, as he shot down a vast majority of popularly speculated characters without outright stating the character's identity. I had someone passingly bring up VanillaWare once, but it was speculative hopes. The concept design looks a bit more like Serenica's outfit.

Doubters pointed out that the leak by definition was not infallible due to making a completely wrong assumption, though this argument was dismissed as a fallacy of composition that did not degrade any of Vergeben's other claims.