http://www.smogon.com/ingame/guides/how_to_sketch#status, http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?832-Smeargle-Moveset-Error, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Why don't you ask the people on Smogon who decided to ban chatter? It might be different in other tiers. (Inadequate description? Has a 100% chance to confuse the target. Let us know in this thread.).

Moves are banned when they make a format too luck-based. Chatter, despite not offering as much coverage as Heat Wave, is usable because of its unique ability to simultaneously inflict damage and cause confusion. Let us know in this thread.). This confuses the target. There's an elaborate (slightly) hierarchy involving Tier Council Members, and a rotating Council for specific Suspect Testing. There's an elaborate (slightly) hierarchy involving Tier Council Members, and a rotating Council for specific Suspect Testing. The user attacks using a sound wave based on words it has learned. Pokémon with higher Special Attack are more suited to Chatter's special damage, and have the stat highlighted in green. Has a 100% chance to confuse the target.

Why does smogon recommend crunch over waterfall for Gyarados in it's Mega DD set? Chatter.

Pokémon with Soundproof are immune to this move. Flying Pokémon get STAB, and have their types highlighted in green. Banning King's Shield is nearly the same as banning Aegislash anyway. Or, rather, the strength of the NU Pokemon can counter the slight disadvantage provided by the Confusion, which the Pokemon of PU can not, because they're simply not good enough to bounce back from such a disadvantage. Pokémon with higher Special Attack are more suited to Chatter's special damage, and have the stat highlighted in green. It may also confuse the target. If the user is not a Chatot, this move will not cause confusion. The user attacks using a sound wave based on words it has learned. Also, I am not really on Smogon, and haven't to be honest, voted for or against, like ever. How long does it take (on average) for each Smogon metagame to stabilize? Has either a 1%, 11%, or 31% chance to confuse the target, based on the volume of the recording made for this move; louder recordings increase the chance of confusion. What are the acronyms of every Smogon tier?

Z-Move Base Power: 120 (Inadequate description? And how are bans implemented? Pokédex entry for #441 Chatot containing stats, moves learned, evolution chain, location and more! Let us know in this thread.). Pokemon Type: Flying: Category: Special: Power: 65 BP: Accuracy: 100%: Priority: 0: PP: 20: Has a 100% chance to confuse the target. Are you sure you got everything else right? Let us know in this thread.). That's so 5 minutes ago.) How many walls/tanks are there in smogon OU? The user attacks using a sound wave based on words it has learned. Cookies Pokemon Online will be Adopting Smogon Tiers.

100% chance to confuse is annoying, and makes it overpowered in the PU, which is a notch below NU.In other words, the Pokemon of NU are better at handling such tactics that are guaranteed to cause confusion. server is reset, so as to prevent players from being able to use specific movesets, such as Chatot with Chatter, in this case, while searching for PU battles. This confuses the target. I doubt anyone uses it without King's Shield, so it makes sense to just move it to Ubers. So, I MIGHT be wrong. They decided to ban all possible Aegislashes in OU (when they could have banned only king's shield and achieved the desired result), while only banning the move chatter in PU. Z … ©1999 eevee/lexy munroe

Chatot was only a problem because of how easily it could abuse the confuse chance. Other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. As to how it is banned, well, it takes place in the following steps: First off, someone puts up a post in the forum for PU, about why they think something is overpowered.

Type: Flying: Category: Special: Power: 60 BP: Accuracy: 100%: Priority: 0: PP: 20: Has an X% chance to confuse the target, where X is 0 unless the user is a Chatot that hasn't Transformed. Pokemon Outside of that, moves like Swagger were banned for being awful for everyone. It is not known to evolve into or from any other Pokémon.. Smeargle is best known for its ability to use the move Sketch, which permanently copies the last move used by the opponent.Due to this, it can legitimately have any move in the Pokémon games except for Chatter, Struggle, and Shadow moves. In triple battles, this move can be used on either side to target the farthest away opposing Pokémon. In my example, I'm going to use the ORAS tiers. "100% chance to confuse is annoying, and makes it overpowered in the PU, which is a notch below NU.". Inflicts regular damage. Chatter. Pokémon. Z-Move Base Power: 120 (Inadequate description? Chatot is also able to mimic the cries of other Pokémon, and uses this ability as a defense mechanism. Has a higher chance to confuse the target when the recorded sound is louder. Open disclaimer: This was something I observed in the case of Aegislash long ago, for OU. Chatot is the only known Pokémon that learns Chatter. Oh and you have proof that it works or just "the internet disagrees"? • icons from fugue set A better form of democracy than in most countries, if you ask me, but that's probably because of the far lesser numbers and obviously, way less important decisions, but whatever. As you may know, back when people played ORAS, Aegislash was unhealthy in OU and Chatot was unhealthy in PU. It may also confuse the foe. Has a 100% chance to confuse the target. I'll agree with the damage dealing part, though 65 BP and Chatot's Sp. ). By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Why did they decide to only ban chatter in PU? Chatter deals damage, so it's more risky to switch into and can be boosted by nasty plot. Chatter is broken because of its confusion effect, which made players rely on luck to check Chatot. No other moves have the same effect as Chatter. Has a 100% chance to confuse the target. If so, anyone who's on Smogon can let me know in the comments, or can put up another answer, and I'll take this one down. © 2018 Pokémon. • pokémon ©1995 pokémon, Finally, based on a simple majority (50% +1), it is decided to ban (or not) based on the results. Then, the Smogon Community has to decide, by playing time and again on the Suspect Test phase, whether a move / Pokemon is really overpowered or not, and then a voting is held. Endeavor. © 2018 Pokémon Online.

• country flags from famfamfam. Okay, I don't know. Despite no longer being able to record sound, Chatter still cannot be copied by Sketch. >Generation VI Unfortunately, Chatot's Speed tier, while allowing it to outspeed some threats such as Lilligant and Mesprit, often leaves it outpaced by other offensive Pokemon, such as Tauros, Floatzel, and Scyther. [Not a Bug] Smeargle can't learn Transform nor Chatter Discussion in ' Bug Wasteland ' started by MysteryMan , Jul 22, 2012 . Who is better for sweeping late game, Mega-Mawile or Mega-Medicham on Smogon. The user attacks the target with sound waves of deafening chatter. Why do certain moves/ Pokemon get banned from one tier? After the ban, the PS! Prevents other Pokemon from lowering this Pokemon's Defense stat stage. This move cannot be copied by Mimic, Mirror Move, or Sketch, nor selected by Assist, Metronome, or Sleep Talk. This move ignores the target's Substitute. Chatter's power was changed from 60 to 65. NOTE: This previous generation move is not available in this generation, and is only usable in non-standard National Dex formats. Smeargle (Japanese: ドーブル Doble) is a Normal-type Pokémon introduced in Generation II..

That gives reason for the ban. A Pokémon targeted by this move can use Mirror Move to copy it. game freak, Target repeats its last move for its next 3 turns. Discussion in 'Bug Wasteland' started by MysteryMan, Jul 22, 2012. Chatot uses the sounds it has learned and arranges them into its own melody, and flicks its tail to keep rhythm. What does "unhealthy" mean in competitive battling? Then, the Smogon Community has to decide, by playing time and again on the Suspect Test phase, whether a move / Pokemon is really overpowered or not, and then a voting is held. This reflects how the games treat moves and may be somewhat idealistic. Without Chatter it was not an issue, so they elected to ban that and not the Pokemon. Pretty sure it requires at least 60% to vote ban in order to ban. (wow sumwun. In the anime source. I guess it's because the whole gimmick of Aegislash is to use King's Shield; without that move, it's ability becomes redundant, and Aegislash users like their mind-games anyway. © 1995-2018 Nintendo/Creatures Inc./GAME FREAK Inc. Pokémon character names, 3DS, Wii U, and Nintendo Network are trademarks of Nintendo. creatures, many thanks to these amazing contributors Normal This move will not work if the target has used Detect or Protect this turn. (Inadequate description? Atk isn't amazing, but the 'can be' is where you start getting into the infinite possibilities loop. Instead, the move will always confuse the target. Should it be decided that it is a valid claim, then it reopened for testing in a separate thread. No other moves have the same effect as Chatter. nintendo, Pokemon Pokemon How does Smogon determine which Pokemon are in which tier? Flying Pokémon get STAB, and have their types highlighted in green. Pokémon Online is not affiliated with Nintendo. This site uses cookies. From this generation onward, sound can no longer be recorded. This takes some time to be implemented, due to obvious reasons. King's shield didn't rely on much of a luck factor, so OU couldn't ban it.